> Who is likely to do a better job at devtools - a semi maker whose main business is making chips, or > a 3rd party whose main business is making devtools? Well, I would hope that the chip vendor would have the ultimate inside track on emulation, but my experience with tools provided by chip vendors has been awful. Mplab is arguably the best, but it's been a long time since I used it, and that was before I touched the AVR, which was also wonderful for a while. > AVR is a good illustration of my point above....AVR studio took many years to become more than a > toy. Hmm.. Not sure of chronology, but I developed my first AVR app in studo, using the sim, since real silicon for the 8515 was not yet out. I still have my first 8515 chip, date code "ES". :) I went from "what's an AVR?" to delivered app in six weeks. Today, I feel I could spend six weeks trying to get Studio to work with: Here: rjmp Here Studio today suffers from an advanced case of DFW error. Dosen't F***ing Work. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist