> doing a quick look on farnell I found a 10AH nimh D cells > http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/Electrical/Batteries,+Chargers+&+Holders/ANSMAN= N/5030641/displayProduct.jsp?sku=3D1173791&_requestid=3D100587 > but at =A37 each excluding vat they aren't cheap. > > oops wrong price, the actual price for the big nimh D cell = > was =A38.73 At 1.2V nominal, that's GBP0.73/Wh. A 12V 7Ah SLA would cost GBP61 at that rate. here I can buy a reasonably OK 12V 7AH SLA for under GBP10 = and an acceptable one for possibly half that. If "green" issues are not the greatest factor then lead acid = is still pretty attractive in this role. If green issues ARE (or aren't) a key factor you can take = suitable care with the recycling in due course. The highly = enthused could even strip the cell when dead and meutralise = the acid electrolyte prior to recycling the lead. Here (NZ) people pay useful money for dead car batteries, = suggesting that the lead is getting properly recycled. With = NiCd batteries it's not at all certainthat they always = actually reach Nirvana after having been 'properly" disposed = of. Russell -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist