Neil Cherry wrote: > I'm not worried about weigh, with my fellow cyclist I'm considered > an extreme nut-case. My camelbak has a 3L bladder and all the change > I get dumped into the backpak (along with tools tire and what-ever). > It tends to weigh in at around 40 lbs. I use it as a training tool. > I also rides long distances (up to 120 miles on Saturdays during > May - Oct.). Having cycle-commuted in my early days, I can say with certainty that you deserve your reputation! :) -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist