I've been using a brother 5250DN for about a year now and love it. Built in duplex, built in ethernet networking, 30 ppm and 1200 dpi printing. I mostly use 600 dpi though. I do a lot of printing and it has not had a glitch yet. Works perfectly with linux and I get 7000 page toner cartriges for $40 including shipping. The printer cost me $200 brand new from amazon.com with free shipping. I've been using laser for a number of years now and would never look back. Inkjet costs far more to run and I had many more problems with them. Moses Apptech wrote: >> Re: [OT] It is the time to buy laser printer and dump the >> inkjets > > Not for me it isn't. > >> Xiaofan Chen wrote: >> >>> Laser Printers from HP/Canon and even Fuji Xerox are of >>> similar price >>> range. Maybe it is the time to dump the inkjets. >> Definitely it is, > > For many values of definitely > If you REALLY want to reduce inkjet costs and increase > convenience and do large volumes then a continuous inking > system works marvels. > > eg these people > > http://www.rihac.com.au/ > > sell such systems in Australia. They claijm that they have > mixed and matched parts to make their's the best in the > world. That's as may be but they work well - I'm a happy > customer. I bought one for about $150 with 5 x 100 ml ink. > It's actually no causing problems that are probably of my > making (don't let the ink tanks go dry and don't cross the > beams or there will be marshmellow everywhere ...). So good > though that I've just ordered another and sometime [tm] hope > to get the other working agin on another printer. > >> I've been stating the same over the recent 2-3 years, >> since Samsung made its first Mono Laser around 70 EUR (to >> resellers). > > Cheap 'LASERs often have refills catridges that cost more > than the 'LASER. > > >> InkJets are only useful to print photos > > See above. > Good for all sorts with cheap ink. > Being able to print reports in duplex with colour diagrams > is a great capability. > Duplex colour LASERs get a bit dear and quality is down, as > yuou say. Speed is up. Toner costs are at the ransom cost of > their choice. > >> (dpi is higher than Color LAser >> and quality is inherently higher by now) but in the end I >> always > > try to change that to "usually discourage it for most > people" > >> discourage it: it's a mess and having them printed in a >> store is cheaper >> and better. > > CISs removes the mess. It's cheaper than stor prints. > Quality can be extremely good. You don't get the sore > software trying to 'interpret' your print. > > I buy good enough budget A4 170 gsm photo paper (DSE XM7105) > at $NZ0.28/sheet in 50's and cut it in 4 to give effectively > 6x4 at 7 cents/print. Ink costs are negligible with CISS. > And an A4 colour print for about $NZ0.35 is hard to find > commercially. > > That paper is good enough for almost everything and I use > whatever suits for the very best prints. > > > > Russell > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist