Well said. I do almost the very same thing and in 5 yrs I only found one, which I intentionally downloaded to test my containment abilities, keeping snapshots before and after to verify any final changes (BTW, was alerted to, found, contained, analyzed and removed it fine - after all, if the protection doesn't work, it won't throw an alert either, so I tested). There is no excuse for the liberties larger companies take with one's machine. Everything going on this new machine is open source and/or downloaded. There is a respect they offer towards the user and the user's property in most cases. My lost work hours this last month have exceeded all of last year's already on XP due to 'working around' Vista 'features' and resetting settings for the nth time. This hasn't been application issues, but in trying to reign Vista in and make it work. (I still can't move data around my net with the Vista one...) How's this for a client bill: Prototype creation .................. 2 days Copying your creation on Vista....... 3 days Total billing.........................5 days Matt Pobursky wrote: > Sorry, but I had to let that all out after watching this thread for several > days... > > Matt Pobursky > Maximum Performance Systems > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist