What I said, was the power assisted brakes do not have sufficient hydraulic pressure > clamping force to the front calipers to skid the wheels on dry good friction pavement with modern tire tread material. If a wheel doesn't slide, then the ABS is not entering the picture. Yes this is the non-abs situation. I did check the electrical diagrams, and there is a wire going to the powertrain (engine & transmission) controller. Have no idea what that's doing, didn't get into the troubleshooting area of the manual. Dumitru Stama wrote: >> As for pulling the fuse, unless I'm missing something, the ABS is not >> active until there is differential rotation of a wheel, and then will >> loosen the brake on the offending wheel. If the ABS is not active, then >> it's straight hydraulic pressure from the master cylinder to the wheel >> pistons, force on the master cylinder amplified by the vacuum booster. >> Since unable to lock up or even slid any wheel, the ABS has no effect >> and pulling the fuse won't help. > > What do you mean ? If ABS is non-functional then you will have a classic > braking system on your hands (or under your foot). Pulling out the fuse > will deactivate ABS system and your wheels will lock under hard breaking. > If the fuse controls something else besides ABS then it may be a little harder > to choose the "pull out" option -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist