I think the printers themselves are just getting incredibly dumb. The smarts (how to draw a character or whatever) has been moved over to the "driver." It's the "WinModem" approach to printing. Harold -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com - Advertising opportunities available! -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist