James! I have nothing with SirPIC !!!!!! I just indicate it to the list !!!! Rubens At 17:05 25/1/2008, you wrote: >http://www.sirpic.com has code to allow a Palm to receive (and send given >the required hardware) signals with a PIC via IR or hardwire interface. > >Most excellent! It's good to know other people have had the same idea. For >anyone who looks at this, the actual PIC code is in >http://www.sirpic.com/downloads/SirPicProgrammersGuide_v1_1.pdf and Rubens >is selling (at a very reasonable price) a Palm app that displays the >incoming data. > >I do have a few questions: > >I've never worked with an IR transmitter module: > >Do they show a visible light of any sort? This would allow it to serve dual >purpose as the status or power on light. > >Do they cost significantly more than a standard LED? I assume so, but maybe >I'm wrong. > >Can a standard LED have any hope of actually communicating with a Palm? > >If I designed a product with your PIC code built in and an IR transmitter, >what royalty issues do I face and can I license the Palm code to my >customers? > >And finally, I'm sort of waiting for someone with a lot of barcode >experience *cough, Dave* to comment on the original idea of using the LED = to >put out pulses of light that a barcode wand might interpret in the same way >it picks up changes in the reflected light level from an actual bar code. = IF >that would work, it seems to me that it would be VERY handy in some >environments. > >-- >James. > >-----Original Message----- >From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of >rlistas >Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:18 >To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. >Subject: Re: [EE] wierd idea: power LED blinks status barcode > >Hi James, > > >Welcome to www.sirpic.com :>) > >I=B4m using it for diagnose my circuits for about 3 years now. >Works perfect. > >Just pay attetion that some palms didn=B4t accept raw IRDA, >just IRCOMM. Another detail is that the clock must be >very precise. I have some trouble with PICs 12F675 and 16F676 >with internal oscillators, even with 1200bauds. > >I use simple IR leds (remote control ones) and only software. > >Zire Z22, the cheapest now, is the best I have used for this. > > >Best regards, > >Rubens > > > > >At 23:15 24/1/2008, you wrote: > >That is a REALLY interesting idea... > > > >Bob has talked in the past about having an "unused" pin that sends out > >status info all the time in some special format... > > > >If you send out status data in a serial stream fast enough and >continuously, > >it should look more or less consistent when used to light the power on L= ED > >on the widget you are making. > > > >For no extra cost, you get a visible status data stream. > > > >Of course, you can't read it with the naked eye... Other than to note th= at > >the light goes out or comes on brighter when the uC stops running. > > > >Then the question is what can you use to read it? What if the light patt= ern > >was the same as what a barcode reader would see if it was scanned over an > >area? So assuming your customer has a barcode reader connected to his or >her > >keyboard (as is the case at a lot of POS terminals) then you just tell t= hem > >to go to a web page that you have set up, and then point the barcode wand > >right over the power LED on your widget. Some JavaScript on the page par= ses > >the data stream, breaks it off in chunks and sends them to you via AJAX. > > > >Or perhaps IRdA is the better protocol? > > > >What do PDA's talk in when you "beam" contacts between units? > > > >At worst, you send them a "visible light to RS232 adapter" which everyone > >has laying around right? > > > >On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 12:05:24PM -0700, Dwayne Reid wrote: > >The other neat trick I'm doing is that one of the LEDs is actually > >spitting out a serial bit stream while it is lit. > > > > > > > >-- > >http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > >View/change your membership options at > >http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > >-- >http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >View/change your membership options at >http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > >-- >http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >View/change your membership options at >http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist