On Jan 19, 2008 12:30 AM, Tamas Rudnai wrote: > Opera is great, the only problem is that it strictly follows the > w3c.orgwhile too many sites follows microsoft.com. Firefox has no problem > with those sites (or much less) while Opera is still struggling. That is true. I do not use Opera under Windows. I installed Opera under Linux when I was having problem with Firefox. Once I fixed the problem with Ubuntu Firefox (with Swiftfox), I never used Opera. > Anyway, I love the mail client inside Opera, I was using that a lot with an > IMAP server. The reason is I am not using that anymore is that because a) > using Gmail; b) the corporate firewall does not let me going out with IMAP, > POP3 and SMTP protocols. Since I am using Gmail, many programs become useless to me (Outlook Express, Evolution). Occassionaly I will use Thunderbird to read Newsgroup. But I also use Google Groups. > I still found Safari as the fastest browser, however, it's a bit of shame > that they make a Windows but not a Linux client. I do not have a Mac but I tried Safari once under Windows and it was very slow (that was a beta version though). Anyway, I will use IE and Firefox under Windows and Firefox under Linux based on my criteria of using no-cost software under Linux/Windows. 1st choice: OS built-in, supported and usable 2nd choice: freely available from the OS vendor, supported and usable 3rd choice:from 3rd party, open source, easily to be built from source 4th choice: from 3rd party, open source, not so easily built from source so will have to use the binary package 5th choice: from well-known 3rd party, closed source 6th choice: from less-well-known 3rd party, closed source, but with good review Under Windows, IE is 1st choice, Firefox is 3rd/4th (I've built Firefox from source under FreeBSD), Opera is 5th choice. Apple may be 5th or 6th since their Windows offerings are often bloated and not well behaving under Windows (Quicktime and iTune). Under Linux, Firefox is No 1 choice and Opera is still 5th choice. Regards, Xiaofan -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist