Howard, Don't forget that diesel engines have a much higher torque than a petrol one, even at a very low rpm, that's why tracks, ships, trains etc use diesel. It means less fuel consumption and longer lifetime. My old car for example has a 2.5 litre, 6 cyl turbo diesel and the torque is around 320nm. The same with a brand new petrol is somewhere of 200nm. For generators, lawnmowers, cars the rule is the same: if you use it much, then you save fuel (not just the lower price of that) and also the maintenance costs are lower compared to a petrol one, but if you use it rarely it might not worth the initial investment. Tamas On 1/15/08, Howard Winter wrote: > > Mike, > > Thanks for the details... > > On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 15:00:15 -0000, Michael Rigby-Jones wrote: > > > 2007 fuel duty (as of 1 October 2007) in the United Kingdom is: > > > > * 50.35 pence per litre for ultra-low sulphur unleaded petrol/diesel > > * 53.65 pence per litre for conventional unleaded petrol > > * 56.94 pence per litre for conventional diesel > > * 30.35 pence per litre for bio-diesel and bio ethanol > > * 16.49 pence per kg for gas other than natural gas (LPG) > > * 13.70 pence per kg for natural gas used as road fuel. > > * 9.69 pence per litre for rebated gas oil (red diesel) > > * 9.29 pence per litre for rebated fuel oil > > Interesting - the duty on Diesel is more than Petrol - I didn't know that! > > Notice that the duties on the liquified gasses are per kg, and assuming > they are lighter than water (I believe they are, for example petrol has a > Specific Gravity of > about 0.8, I think) then the duty is possibly about 25% higher than it > appears. > > What's the difference between the last two? I'd have thought that red > diesel would be fuel oil rather than gas oil? I always thought there was > *no* duty on red > diesel - funny how these myths arise! :-) Is there such as thing as > "red" petrol, I wonder? It seems a right pain to pay duty for something > that isn't going to be > used in a vehicle, such as in garden equipment (mowers, strimmers, > chainsaws) or in generators. Cheap petrol generators are easy to find, b= ut > diesel ones seem to > be about three times the price, so to get one to use red diesel would mean > a lot of use before it pays for the difference in the running costs. I > calculated the cost > of using a small (2kW) petrol generator as about UK=A31 per kWh, and this > was some time ago and as we can see, about 2/3rds of this is duty that is= n't > due! :-) > > Cheers, > > > > Howard Winter > St.Albans, England > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist