Can you be more precise? I haven't installed it, but could use some detailed info to decide. The one thing I used to like about Sygate is that it would pop up each time something new tried to come in or go out and you could choose no, this time, or all the time permission. With the MS one, you don't ever know what is trying to get out, so if you didn't remember to permit something first, it just fails, and you could have a million trojans trying to get out and wouldn't know it. Seeing that sometimes, for a one-off access, turning off outbound access is easiest for a few moments to test, who knows what will phone home during that time. No doubt MS has so many things trying to phone home (and which of them is truly blocked by the MS firewall and which have hard coded exemptions?) that it would embarrass them if it alerted the user, especially Media Center stuff and its services... Trust nothing, approve only what you need... ;-) Xiaofan Chen wrote: > On Jan 4, 2008 6:16 AM, Bob Axtell wrote: > > I tried it for one week and today I uninstalled it. It is too intrusive > for my taste. Maybe I am a bit impatient with free softwares > not integrated into Windows. > > Xiaofan -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist