At 04:01 PM 1/9/2008, you wrote:
> >
> >FWIW, in Germany it's been a loooong time that grocery stores don't provide
> >free plastic bags. You usually can buy one (if you forgot to BYOB :), but
> >these are rather solid and thought to be reused. I can't remember a big
> >ruckus when they stopped handing out free ones.
> >
> >AFAIK they don't charge yet for opening the freezer door :)
>
>We save our plastic bags from the store, and use them as trash bags
>in various small trash cans (bathrooms, etc). Saves us from having to
>buy special bags for those cans.

Ditto for us, plus we use them for dog waste- a couple fit easily in the
pocket. I don't think we hardly ever throw the bags out empty, and they are
very, very light (i.e. not much material goes into them). Perhaps more
energy and fossil fuels is used for the alternatives.

We got a little storage bin that fits a kitchen cabinet door under the
sink and bags from groceries get stuffed in there. Stuff from club stores
doesn't have bags- so either a scrap cardboard tray (which goes into
recycling) or just carry the stuff if there isn't too much.

I really think they're barking up the wrong tree with this stuff.. PET
bottled water uses WAY more plastic, and as for China.. they must use
hundreds of millions of EPS (styrofoam) trays a day.

Non-grocery bags are more of a nuisance-- being different sizes, and some
of them are quite thick and fancy (eg. metallics and so on). The Apple
store has some of the most extravagant ones- they are little backpacks
with cords.

>Best regards,

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