> Thanks for the tips everybody! Some of your answers are pretty >brutal, gotta say that .. :) You could always write "John Howard Speeches" on them and just throw them in the bin. The garbos will make sure they get squished good and proper -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist