I just went thru a plethora of the same thing here in Arizona. We had designed a system with the PLC located one meter from the sensor control PCB, which has some HC logic and a big PIC. The PLC was connected with two IDC26 cables, unshielded. We were repeatedly killing 74HC86s by Fairchild and TI; using transorbers stopped the failures but as a safety measure, we replaced the HC86s with line receivers DS14C89A. I believe that a die shrinkage has occurred in the HC world AGAIN, and some designs have had to be re-examined, because as dies shrink they become more responsive to noise. --Bob A Mike Hord wrote: > Happy New Year to everyone! > > What is everyone's opinion of latent defects caused by ESD in > CMOS ICs? We have a couple of failure modes for two different > products, both involving analog CMOS ICs (one a MUX, the other > a POR/BOR supervisor). > > The generalities of the failures are the same (previously reliable, > same component on several boards which has never failed before, > failure in the field but never in the factory). The biggest question > mark is that all of the boards which have failed were built on the > same line, same machine, within a couple of weeks span. > > During the winter. > > In the arid northern US. > > The bugaboo is this: IF these are ESD failures at assembly time, > why are these making it through production and out to the field > before failing? Corollary: why are only these components failing? > > Failure mode of the IC is reflowed silicon due to high current. > FA lab says electrical overstress: high voltage applied for a long > time. They CAN'T tell us why the other components on the bus > aren't dead (or even damaged, per their own package removal > studies). > > Mike H. > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist