I agree, Vista with 2G is very smooth, actually I am very pleased with this part - ok, once or twice it said I have not got enough memory so I had to reboot, but it happens once in a month - I have 3 users continuously logged in and rarely rebooting the machine (it's in sleep mode all the time when not used). With Linux I am far from satisfied with the booting time. Kernel needs much more time than XP or Vista, and once kernel is up Xwindow only needs as much time as the XP all together. That's why I was using swsusp2 for the kernel 2.4 which made a pretty fast hibernation. But for that I had to patch, configure and recompile the kernel which is far more than an ordinary user willing to do. For some reason they do not include all cool projects in the official kernel and more interestingly most of the distribution avoid that too. Tamas On Jan 6, 2008 2:45 AM, Xiaofan Chen wrote: > On Jan 6, 2008 8:06 AM, Herbert Graf wrote: > > > Linux does contribute a big value on server functions and embedded > > > Linux world. > > > > > > Vista might be just another mistake like the windows Me. > > > > What's more disturbing to me about Vista is how manufacturers are > > putting it on machines they shouldn't. > > That is the main point. > > > > > Case in point, I bought a Dell Inspiron Desktop with an E2140 dual core > > CPU and 1GB of memory. On a lark, before I wiped the drive, I tried > > booting the machine into Vista (it comes with Vista home basic). After a > > very long boot, I opened IE, tried a few basic things. The performance > > was HORRIBLE. About the only good things was hibernate performance, > > aside from that it was a very slow experience and I really pity those > > that expected a usable computer. > > > > The same machine running XP and Ubuntu is VERY responsive. And that's > > with the compiz stuff turned on in Ubuntu. > > Vista needs 2GB of RAM. I only have two major criteria when I was deciding > which notebook to buy: >=2GB of RAM and total cost with 3 year warrantee. > I ended up buying a notebook with 4GB of RAM on Christmas day. Vista > does have some kinks to be solved but that is normal as the first release > of Windows. Windows Me is an exception for Microsoft of being so bad that > they themselves do not want to remember it. > > I agree with you in general that it is not fair to compare XP and moder > Linux > on old hardware. Old hardware is designed to run old OS or stipped down > modern OS. Linux does have an edge here by being Open Source. > > Low end low cost desktop/laptop gives Linux a good chance to beat Windows > XP/Vista by offering the best peformance/price ratio. > > Xiaofan > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist