Said by some (and them) to be the best software firewall available. Free for any sort of use forever. Not a crippled version. No catches (they say) http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/ Sounds too good to be true BUT it appears it may be true. Ask me again when I get back from China :-) (leaving tomorrow) Note that WIN2K has a separate (older version) version. More unbelievably good sounding free security products (anti: malware, virus, spam, ... ) http://www.comodo.com/products/free_products.html They say that their main business is SSL site software and that the free products are a form of cheap advertising of their prowess. Good story anyway :-). Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist