(resend with [EE] tag... oops...) I'm pretty close to having a go with a syringe paste dispenser attached to a CNC machine here (just got a mounting issue to work out, and a logic level relay to add to the CNC controller) to hopefully be able to do paste dispensing without stencils for SMD assembly in house. Someone else who is doing this has video (and a .pdf) up at http://www.ciciora.com/surface_mount.html . Unfortunately, he's using eagle for layout and his method of getting the pad centers won't work for me with DipTrace. I know I've seen some sort of tool to take the stencil gerber layer and convert this to either a file for the cnc table, or at the minimum output something easier to convert. Ideas? -forrest -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist