I'll leave all the prior post untrimmed at the end of this post, as a look at the page I've referenced may encourage some more than averagely inquiring minds to delve further into the prior material. A look at the notes in http://www.pol.ac.uk/psmsl/commentaries/west_coast_north_america.pdf which are by a respected researcher with the "Permanent Service for Mean Sea Level" service, may provide material for long term mental background processing by those genuinely interested in the reality behind the various material being presented on "climate change". Taking his Figure 1.1 and pondering on how valid extrapolation of the 2 incomplete curves to the left might be, and the implications of the apparent trends from about 1900 (or about 1850) to the present may be entertaining. Graphs such as figures 1.5 and 1.6.1 will be of no surprise to sealevel experts but may give laymen food for thought. (The notes to 1.6.1 give some probable reasons for what is seen). Figure 1.8 is interesting, especially when compared to most other graphs. Note the comment below 1.8. Russell PS Don't let me do more than point a few things out that may be of interest. Immediate interpretation may be about as useful as having me expound at length on what it all may mean :-) :-(. As I noted at the start, filing it all away for mental processing is probably more useful. _________________ Interest & Information only - Semi-random semi-facts: - The equivalent sea-level content of various land-ice reservoirs is 0.5m Small ice caps and all glaciers 7 m Greenland 61m Antarctica - 1C increase in global mean air temperature would result to ~~~~= 100 mm rise in sea level due to thermal expansion. ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Korman" To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Ocean high water data. > James Newton wrote: >> Ah, well that changes things... Apparently the TIDES are >> no higher but the >> average sea level IS. >> >> I also found >> http://www.pol.ac.uk/psmsl/ >> http://www.pol.ac.uk/psmsl/datainfo/ >> http://www.pol.ac.uk/psmsl/pubi/rlr.annual.plots/823081.gif >> >> And THAT shows a definite trend: The seas ARE rising. >> >> -- >> James Newton >> > Here's the list of all the stations > http://www.pol.ac.uk/psmsl/pub/indexb.dat > > Kind of interesting, The Chesapeake Bay is sinking.. > Annapolis Maryland, North Chesapeake Bay > http://www.pol.ac.uk/psmsl/pubi/rlr.annual.plots/960080.gif > Hampton Roads (Mouth of the James River, Chesapeake Bay) > http://www.pol.ac.uk/psmsl/pubi/rlr.annual.plots/960071.gif > GALVESTON, Tx > http://www.pol.ac.uk/psmsl/pubi/rlr.annual.plots/940008.gif > Scandinavia is still recovering from the last ice age... > Turku, Finland > http://www.pol.ac.uk/psmsl/pubi/rlr.annual.plots/060241.gif > So I tried Australia...... > Sidney > http://www.pol.ac.uk/psmsl/pubi/rlr.annual.plots/680141.gif > And India > http://www.pol.ac.uk/psmsl/pubi/rlr.annual.plots/500041.gif > > The following book was written early enough (1990) that I > believe it is relatively free of global warming bias (for > or against). > http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=1345&page=R1 > > The opening chapter starting at page 37 should be read at > least. > It speaks to some of the reasons for the above > observations. > > BTW - For the record. I do believe that global warming is > occurring > and has been during this inter glacial period. I also > think (based > on the evidence) that it's going to get real cold again, > probably > sooner than later (but could be centuries). > > And yes, I used to play a weather forecaster (US Air > Force), but > now do programming on systems used for weather > forecasting/analysis. > > Jim > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist