> Serial port based, PIC inside http://mcuee.blogspot.com/2007/12/serial-port-based-intelligent-pic.html - Wisp628 is replaced now by Wisp648 - ICD2 could be considered a serial progger too, there are clones (like olimex tiny-icd2) that are serial port only Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist