Well, my PicKit2 Clone arrived. I am down at the office, trying to get it to work on the 10 WinXP sp2 systems. This was my last hope to use it to replace ICD2. So far, it does not work; in fact, it locks up MPLAB8 and requires CTL-ALT-DEL action to pull out of it. That's ONE PC down. Now, I'll try the lab PC that the IT guys don't know about...yet... --Bob A -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist