On 12/21/07, Apptech wrote: > Under $200 conversion > HHO > Brown's gas. > " ... HHO provides the atomic power of Hydrogen, while > maintaining the chemical stability of water." > ... suppressed ... > ... hydrogen ... road tests ... > Double fuel economy > Many satisfied users' testimonials* ... > **** Warning **** : Don't bother trying this at home. > > * PC Barnum was right! So, explain more thoroughly the disclaimer you add. As far as I can tell, the claim boils down to the following: Gasoline --> mechanical energy (30% efficiency) Mechanical energy --> Electricity (70% efficiency) Electricity & H2O --> Brown's gas (??% efficiency) Brown's gas + gasoline --> mechanical energy (more than 30% efficiency) Is that pretty much it? Keep in mind that we've made trade-offs for reliability, longevity, ease of repair that's taken away from engine efficiency. Are these unaffected? I suspect that the additional water isn't kind on the engine... I know people add water alone to the cylinders just to add a little compressive force. Is this substantially better? Do we know what the mechanism is that increases the efficiency of the engine? Is there something special about the $200 package he offers that we couldn't easily replicate on-list for testing? I've been tracking my Contour's mileage for some time, and it's my beater car (running it into the ground right now) so I'd be willing to try this if it was simple and cheap, but I'm not interested in spending $200 on it. -Adam -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Moving in southeast Michigan? Buy my house: http://ubasics.com/house/ Interested in electronics? Check out the projects at http://ubasics.com Building your own house? Check out http://ubasics.com/home/ -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist