Ken said - (not on list) > If you were "brave" you could always try Holtek - but > anyone still making > processors with a hardware-limited stack depth should be > taken outside and > given a vigorous beating. Mayhaps. BUT after that, if they were still willing to sell them at no more than half the alternative then one may consider them. At $US0.39 in 500 quantity the 9RS08 suggests that 100,000 pricing may be very competitive. I have the data sheet open now :-). Comparator, timer, interupts. Wakeup from stop on external or timer. 6800 subsubset 6 I/O in 8PDIP or 8SOIC 4 I/O in DFN Actually 4+1+1 and 2+1+1 respectively April 2006 1st release so maybe half debugged. (Moore's law says half the remaining bugs are gone every 18 months, no ...?) Flash 160 C/W on 1 layer board 1.8-5.5 V OPERATING RAM retention 0.8V Credible if not PIC sized I/O current. Run 10 MHz 6.5 mA max 1.25 MHz 1.5 mA max Idd STOP 5V 2uA 25C, 5 uA 85C 3V same 1.8V 2/4 Bandgap add 30 uA max RTI add 500 nA at 1 kHz internal clk add 165 uA they say at 32 kHz but prob nA ??? Trimmed clock deviation 0.2% at fixed V, T and 2% over temperature and V . Bandgap is an annoying but typical 1.2V. Why they don't divide this by eg 4 or offer the option to do so I don't know. Many applications would use this as an external current sense and 1.2V is too high almost anywhere. You can passively increase the ref but not decrease it. A good start though. Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist