Morgan Olsson wrote: >> Point me to one known death in any part of nuclear power producing >> industry and maybe I'll take a look. > > What planet are you living on? > > Tjernobyl is a very known place with a reactor that exploded not terriby > far from me. > Cancer deaths are still counting on large scale Watched a Russian documentary a couple of days ago ("20th anniversary of Chernobyl"). http://russianremote.com/2999.html It's in Russian only (with no subtitles), but among other things they show/talk about: - The fact that out of 180,000 liquidators, only 134 were diagnosed with acute radiation sickness. Out of those, 28 died. - There are people who still live in the "forbidden zone" -- 30 km radius. The 80-year old guy says he feels no ill effects (remember, 20 years passed). His grandkids live there, too -- by law, they have to spend a few weeks each year in the "clean zone" -- apparently they're healthy, too. - Today Chernobyl is a popular tourist destination. - Interview with Oleg Genrikh, one of two reactor operators at the time the explosion occurred. He's been treated for acute radiation sickness, and according to his testimony has fully recovered (after nine plastic surgeries). Oleg says that a traffic cap asked him whether radiation sickness leads to impotence. His reply was, "go ask my wife, I don't like to brag". According to him, it took him a longer time (9 years) to recover psychologically. - Animal-mutants (two-headed hares, etc) are a myth. - There is no indication that exposure to radiation leads to - Most cancer deaths (thyroid), are due to the criminal actions of the government. They could have been avoided, if only people downwind from Chernobyl would have been advised to stay at home (radioactive isotope of iodine, which causes this specific form of cancer, has a half-life of 8 days). Of course, to keep it balanced, they had to find a guy (the angry one with the beard) who said that the IAEA report was paid for by the Russian government, and that any dose of radiation is harmful ("even as far as India 1,000,000 were affected!"). "People who live within the zone, have broken chromosomes". >From another source, a story of what happened to Oleg: "Operators of the CH-4 (Central Hall) Anatoly Kurguz and Oleg Genrikh after a check of the central hall went into the operator's room wait for Perevozchenko (their supervisor), to get the task list for the shift. About six minutes prior to explosion, Oleg told Anatoly that he's tired and will go get some sleep. He went into a separate room with a bunk. Oleg shut and locked the door, and went to sleep. Meanwhile, Anatoly made an entry in the operating journal. He was separated from the central hall by three wide open doors. When the explosion happened, radioactive steam went into the operator's room. Anatoly's skin was torn, and went in blisters. Anatoly yelled to Oleg: "It really burns! It really burns!" Oleg tried to open the door, but the heat was so intense, that he postponed the attempt, and instinctively lay on the floor. Oleg yelled: "Anatoly! Get down, it's cooler!". When the heat began to subside, Oleg and Anatoly went down the "clean stairs" [...] Dyatlov (assistant chief engineer) ran to them: "Quick, to the hospital!"" According to a forum post by Oleg, Anatoly received 3-4 times the amount of radiation considered "incompatible with life". Officially, it is considered that Anatoly died not from radiation sickness, but from the burns he received. Vitaliy PS "Centrall Hall" is the area directly above the reactor. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist