Den 2007-12-09 13:27:21 skrev Xiaofan Chen : > Do we really have an energy crisis in the US? For some reason US is using about twice as much energy per capita as EU, and producig twice as much pollutant of all kinds. As technology, climate and living standard is approcimate the same, it seems to be cultural. Maybe enegry have been regarded cheap, and sitting in cars many hours regardes as fun... I dont understand why...? Still calculaitons show EU could halve comsumption pretty easily. Just puttign in correctly dimensioned pumps and frequency control would save a whole nuclear plant here in an land of only 9 million. Add to that the savings of lower initial construction and service. Then we go to other parts of industries, process optimizations. Then on to Homes, transports... You get the idea. And why the ***! did we only recently start to install heat pumps? And why are solar panels not mass produced to replace old dead roof? I read a large clean-roomplant that automated the whole line from glass to panels inside a large clean room would produce panels as cheap as the normal roofing! Problem is of course that bulding that plant would be immensely expensive, tha tonly giants like oil companies could afford it (and they donot want), and the government is of the idea it do not want to interfere with the market. Hey, crap! The old view of "civilisation" (rape we say today) that we can just dam up another river to get cheap electricity, dig mines to get minerals, pump up oil forever at lower cost - is one of the biggest mistakes in history. -- Morgan Olsson -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist