> My unwanted opinion Pour quoi? > is that this discussion is venturing into the > religious, hate, and political arena, and as such may be > more > profitably entertained elsewhere. :-P Is that a reference to where the thread started out or where it has got to. While in this case the progression was not totally unpredictable, one often finds that threads mutate out of all recognition (as several current ones have) and the "fault" is often with people failing to relabel and retag the renegade thread. Re Xiaofan's comment on banning [WOT]. - [WOT] does not, of course exist. I use it as an add on to the valid [WOT] label when I suspect that some few may run screaming from the room but think that many may be interested. In this case, where, in the original is the explicit or even first order implicit religion, hate or politics? I can certainly see how they can be added in, but that's true of many subjects. And, fwiw, most and possibly all of what I've seen others post on this thread seemed very largely free of religion or hate. And who can be rid of politics? :-). Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist