Robert Rolf wrote:
> Martin wrote:
>
>   
>> Please change the topic if you want to talk about the pros/cons of 
>> hybrids. We're talking about electric cars, which are quite well proven 
>> more efficient than gasoline cars.
>>     
>
> No, they are NOT. They only move the pollution to another location.
> e.g. Coal or gas fired power plants still pollute.
>
> And their UNgreen cost of production (heavy metals in batteries, etc.)
> probably make them LESS green than today's gasoline powered vehicles.
>
> You have to look at TOTAL picture to be able to say EV's are 'better'
> than gasoline powered, and they are NOT!
>
> Kinda like the stampede to ethanol fuels.
>
> The TOTAL cost of producing such fuels in North America (corn based) is
> MUCH more than the gasoline they save.
> You have to INCLUDE the cost of fertilizer, subsidies, fuel for
> cultivation and shipping and all the OTHER 'hidden' costs before you can
> make a meaningful comparison.
>
> http://www.factsaboutethanol.org/?p=234
>
> http://ca.today.reuters.com/stocks/FinanceArticle.aspx?view=PR&symbol=CM.TO&storyID=116533+22-Oct-2007+PRN
> "America's efforts to add more corn-based ethanol to the nation's gas 
> tanks will fuel little more than inflation: CIBC World Markets
> Report finds going yellow to send food prices soaring while delivering 
> dubious energy benefits"
>
> and dozens more objective reports can be found with google.
>
>   
>> Funny NYPD wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> The overall pollution of electric/hybrid cars probably is 
>>>       
> many times higher than regular vehicles.
>
> Key word there is 'overall'. Include EVERYTHING used in
> making and running EVs vs. gas/diesel in order to draw a
> meaningful conclusion.
>
> It's just another 'big lie' to make some people very rich.
>
> Robert
>
>   
While I am generally not very "green", my ultimate plan is to use cheap 
solar
cells to charge the electric car.

--Bob A

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