wouter van ooijen wrote: >>>Last time I read a programming specification it was there, >>often in a colored box. >> >>Yep, me too. > > You were in a colored box too?? > ;) Yeah, my car for istance :-))) > But I checked a few recently printed programming specs and found > nothing. Maybe Microchip has removed the distinction. I remember having read it many times - Olin may confirm this as well. But actually I did use my NoPPP programmer for years, and no chip had any bad behaviour, imputable to not programming it according to those specs. And of course my Programmer was not dealing with the full set of VCC and else - I wanted to make it better, but then came PicKit 2 ! Might just have been a safety measure... -- Ciao, Dario -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist