> >Part of the reason I'm even considering a Prius is the fact that the > more > >people buy them, the better the technology gets, and the closer to a > >real solution it becomes > > Hybrids by their very nature will never be a real solution, they are a > temporary stop gap whilst technology works out how to remove the > infernal combustion engine for good. My point exactly- I quit driving. This whole thing came about because of a desire to collapse our two cars into one, until such time as no cars is a viable solution. The "infernal" (I like that) combustion engine addiction is a tough one to break. The people who anger me the most are the ones who don't worry about this, and who say "oh, we'll come up with a solution before peak oil. Don't worry about it." It strikes me a bit like saying "By the time smoking gives me cancer, there will be a pill to cure it." It's human nature: awful things ALWAYS happen to somebody else. It's not until YOUR nation grinds to a halt without oil (ask Cuba) or YOUR lungs seize up with COPD that the true impact of our decisions actually occurs to us. Then it's too late. Mike H. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist