BCC: What do Ken and Ross use? ___________ >> Interesting to see that this question or the way this >> question is asked, >> almost only gives positive feedbacks, >> thereby completely ignoring the rest of the universe, >> where editors exist for which you have to learn nothing >> ;-) > Same feeling here :-) Maybe. But it seems a fine way to handle it if the question asked is what is wanted to be known. The question was not "Is vi a good editor" or "how does vi compare to other editors" but "is vi good enough to be worth the effort to learn, and how hard is it anyway". ??? <- use these ?'s as required. I personally have never used vi, and have used a number of editors that require you to "learn nothing", at least relative to vi, apparently, and still use several of these. But, despite the complexities made apparent by the thread, the information on vi's capabilities and the reasons for using it that people have listed have been compelling enough to make me think that I would like to learn to use it "one of these days". (ie preferably tomorrow but probably it will be never ;-) ). I often enough wish to process lists of information, often file names, and my usual approach when the tools are inadequate, is to write a small program to handle the task in whatever language. It is evident from what has been said that most of what I do in such cases could be handled by a single vi line. Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist