Where do you live? If you're in California I believe the state mandated battery/electronics warranty on hybrids is 150,000 miles or 10 years, though don't quote me. I just bought a new Honda Civic Hybrid. I'm sure it wasn't the smartest idea to buy a new car, but that was my decision. IIRC the HCH is a few thousand cheaper than the Prius but it also doesn't have as many features in the electric drive system. In many situations it gets the same mileage as a Prius, other situations it gets much worse (stop and go in cold weather). Used hybrids tend to get a premium over non-hybrids. This is bad for you, good for the seller. There are many new diesels coming out next year it will be interesting to see what comes of that. - MK Mike Hord wrote: > James, I already know what you'll say. > > My fiance and I are looking at buying a car. We both drive sub-optimal autos > (2003 Jetta GLI for me, 2005 Chevy Malibu for her) and we want to can them > both. I bus it to work everyday day, and she drives 5 miles across town. We > rarely take trips longer than 10 miles. > > She owes more on her car than it's worth, but mine is paid off. We want both > a fiscal and environmental sustainability upgrade here- meaning we want to > pay less for gas and car payment and insurance, AND we don't want to be > contributing to the worsening environmental situation. We also don't want to > be stuck with a car that's going to require huge repair bills annually. > > We're leaning towards a new or slightly used Prius or a new Yaris. I hate the > idea of a new car because new cars are part of the problem- building a car > takes a lot of energy. OTOH, if we keep the car for ten years, it makes > sense to get a new one. > > At any rate, someone on this list has a resource that they can point me to > that will help me gauge the relative impact of these choices. I'm totally lost. > > Greenercars.org seems good to me, but they completely ignore the used > car option.... > > Mike H. > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist