At 06:51 PM 11/16/2007, you wrote: >Thanks for the ideas. I was hoping for a one part solution, but a >typical watchdog chip and an SR flip flop seems like a winner. > >Have a good weekend all. > >-n You could also use a charge pump (a couple of ceramic caps, a BAV99) and a single gate ST inverter, plus a resistor. You have to toggle the input often enough that the resistor doesn't bleed off the voltage to the ST trigger point. One smallest-possible-part-count circuit (1) is an ADM705, which has a /WDO output and an extra comparator. I've used these parts in production and found them very good. About half a dollar in volume. There's also an equivalent 3V part. They may also be offered by M*x*m, at least in theory. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist