On 11/9/07, William Chops Westfield wrote: > > (I've noticed this disturbing trend with gcc, especially with ip > cores available from multiple silicon vendors. Although gcc is > touted as a feature, and the letter of "open source" requirements > seem to have been met, actually putting together a working tool > set for a particular chip seems to take a lot of expertise. Grr.) > Other than the fact that headers/libraries/support are worth the money for people buying commerical GNU based compilers, it is really not that bad, even for a hobbyist. I know you speaks from the perspective of a hobbyist and perhaps you are talking about ARM. It is not that bad to use GNU ARM C compiler and the simple Wiggler based JTAG debugger under Windows/Linux. For example, I would not say I am that experienced with building software toolchains but I have no problems to follow the procedures to build a ARM GCC compiler based on the notes on gnuarm.com site. You do need to go to the right sites/mailing lists and use Google more often as a hobbyist. Links: http://jcwren.com/arm [very nice for the LPC-P2148 board I have] http://www.siwawi.arubi.uni-kl.de/avr_projects/arm_projects/ [WinARM and more] http://gnuarm.alexthegeek.com/ [nice tutorial] http://www.yagarto.de/ http://www.gnuarm.com/ http://openocd.berlios.de/ GCC also supports small MCUs like MSP430, AVR, 68HC11/12. Xiaofan -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist