> Even a zener clamp will keep a graphite cell <= 4V2 if > properly designed. Would almost certainly be << 4V2 to > ensure this in all cases so capacity will be down or even > much down. You have 1% zeners? 1: zeners have bad knees. 2: temperature. > Low voltage cut-off can be arranged at extremely low cost > with a bipolar switch and eg zener plus glue. You need to draw really close to zero current after cutoff. > If I chg << Ichgmax then should be OK as long as Vmax > limited as above. True, and you step the voltage down when current is < X (select for cell ratings) > Charge cutoff at end of charge taper seems the hardest at > zero cost BUT if Vzener clamp or whatever is << 4V2 then it > will sink ALL charge current as 4V2 approached so should > have zero current below 4V2. A well sloped clamp curve would > help. Assuming the zener clamps at the right point, then it's dissipation gets rather enormous, doesn't it? Additionally, you could use a timer to terminate charge after a reasonable time. Current limit isn't that hard to achieve with a couple of transistors, if you don't mind some dissipation, and you've got a couple volts of overhead to work with. > The bad energy utilisation at low Vmax_allowed may mean > that NimH are superior in absolute terms. Nimh are way more complicated to charge, if you're going to respect all the rules. Last time I did it, I filled a tiny-26 with assembler code. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist