On Nov 4, 2007, at 6:28 PM, Martin Klingensmith wrote: > I suspect it's more like "experienced engineers cost money > and the managers don't want to spend the money.." what do you think? Sure, there's some of that. Combine with "experience in engineering doesn't pay that well" ("experienced" engineers tend to go into management, eh? Or sales, marketing, ... anything but engineering.) That said, there probably aren't enough "cheap, unexperienced engineers", either. You look at the things that companies want to do, and a lot of them don't take a lot of "experience." And yet they can't find people capable of doing it... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist