On 11/3/07, peter green wrote: > Funny NYPD wrote: > > For debugging, I would recommend ICE2000 or > > other professional tools for beginners who doesn't > > have much experience on PICs. The pain on ICE2000 > > is you need spend extra money to buy modules > > everytime for new chipsets. > > > > > Maybe if you have a lot of money and need to sort out a > particularlly difficult problem, for most begginers though > I don't think it is suitable for three reasons. > > 1: the cost of the ice2000 itself > 2: the cost of the heads > 3: the fact that you have to work out how to integrate > the head into the setup being debugged, this is much > harder than hooking a couple of wires > to pgc and pgd > Actually I started with PIC at work and had the luxury to buy all the best tools at the time (early year 2000): ICE2000, Promate II and HiTech PICC 7.85. It was a smooth start and I finished the learning and coding process pretty fast. The problem is that ICE2000 does not support the new 3.3V only PICs like PIC18J/PIC24/dsPIC33. Real-ICE is said to be the tools of choice for PIC24/dsPIC33. I think ICD2 is ok for its price. However for professional work and larger program (like bigger 18F, PIC24 and dsPIC33), it is not so good. Xiaofan -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist