For beginners the best I think is an emulator, something like Virtualbreadboard or Proteus. I've learnt PIC basically on MPSIM. Then you can have a demo board that is built together with the programmer. BTW I still prefer emulator to test some algorithm if the theory behind it is ok (of course for final test a real circuit debugger or a "test and hope" is better once that algo works fine on the sim). Tamas On 11/2/07, peter green wrote: > > Funny NYPD wrote: > > For debugging, I would recommend ICE2000 or other professional tools for > beginners who doesn't have much experience on PICs. The pain on ICE2000 is > you need spend extra money to buy modules everytime for new chipsets. > > > > > Maybe if you have a lot of money and need to sort out a particularlly > difficult problem, for most begginers though I don't think it is > suitable for three reasons. > > 1: the cost of the ice2000 itself > 2: the cost of the heads > 3: the fact that you have to work out how to integrate the head into the > setup being debugged, this is much harder than hooking a couple of wires > to pgc and pgd > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist