On Nov 1, 2007, at 4:55 PM, Russell McMahon wrote: > I'm certainly not a pro war apologist but the jingoistic > enthusiasm that the poem radiates feels good. In general, that would THE PROBLEM with jingoistic enthusiasm and nationalism/patriotism in general; they tend to "feel" a lot better than their results usually justify. (Hey, isn't that the problem with Drugs, too?) BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist