I expect to be visiting Qingdao, in China North of Shanghai, on business for a few days from about November 12th. I don't know exactly when or how I'll arrive and leave yet but probably but not certainly via Shanghai both ways. Depending on circumstances I may (or may not) get a chance to look around a day or so either side of this period. I'd be interested in any (polite & sensible :-) ) suggestions of sites or sights to see while I'm there. Either Qingdao, Shanghai or China related or anything from industries, scenery, food, notable customs or whatever. I will have a camera or 3* with me, but will quite probably get to take far fewer than my usual complement of photos). I've been to Taiwan several times but never to mainland China, so I have a general experience of Chinese culture. My vocab is about 2 words (Nihau, XieXie). Maybe I could add a very few more words to that. R KM 5D or 7D DSLR (choose 1) Xacti (palm sized, movie capable) A2??? (less obtrusive than xD - quality goodish) -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist