The $100k mark is a psychological barrier to management and HR I'm told. I've seen surveys in the past that looked nicely spread out such as this, but every company I've had the level to be able to look at salary info, they seemed to asymptotically approach 100k. Some cross, but it seems to not be just another number... I also don't know many who are employed by larger companies making these ranges. Self employed probably get this, small company employed close, and big company, furthest away. The HR rationale is that other benefits and job security make up the difference. The reality is that it only plays to one's paranoia as nothing is secure from anywhere these days, but they still play that hand... On another angle... long ago when starting out and bright eyed and eager to fill in my first industry salary survey, an older engineer came over and said "You know, HR departments use this info to set competitive salary levels. Imagine what would happen if everyone just checked one box higher on the survey each time..." then winked and walked off. While I've never seen any organized effort in this area, but given the analytical ability of engineers, I wonder how many see this as a closed loop system... ;) It might explain why most tend to make less than these surveys show they should, a few are spot-on, and you never see anyone being overpaid as one might expect in a Gaussian distribution... Christopher Cole wrote: > graduating from Akron University with BSEE degrees are currently starting at > $60-65k. The 5-9 and 10-14 figures above both seem spot-on for me, > personally. I graduated 10 years ago from Akron University with a BSEE > degree. I cannot yet comment on the latter figures in the survey :) -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist