>WOW, you guys are really into feature creep!! >More like a feature race! ;-) >KISS! Use a plain ol' CV wall wart and a series resistor >to the twisted pair, LED on the other side, OK, but we can add a feature to this ;)))))))))) Use an AC output wall wart, then at the receiving end have an LED and an optoisolator, with the LEds wired back to back. That way you have a visual indicator as well as an isolated input into the next step. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist