On 10/25/07, James Newton wrote: > Oh, now... Come on... Let's not invoke the "California is a dangerous place" > card. Not really related but it seems California is quite different from other parts of US. I like Southern California very much since I stayed in Irvine (in Orange County) for a year. Very nice place, clean and safe. The housing price is not cheaper but still cheaper than Silicon Valley. The food is good since there are many choices: western, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Iranian, Vietnamese, etc. The weather is also nice. A bit of more rain will be nice but I think that is still manageable. They also have a good public school system. I think the Irvine Company must be very good. This morning a colleague from US gave us a training session on Certifications. Now I know there are so many certifications in the world. For ROHS, there are European ROHS, China ROHS and ............................... California ROHS. Xiaofan -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist