List, LED output is spec'ed in mcd; IRED output is spec'ed in mW/sr. (I think.) Can anyone tell me how I can compare the radiant output of a LED to an IRED? I am using a phototransistor as a detector. From it's point of view, it won't care if the radiation is visible or invisible; it can detect either. Red LEDs would be acceptable in my application, but the invisibility of IREDs would be preferred, if comparable cost and radiant output can be obtained. Thanks, Mark -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist