Gerhard Fiedler wrote: >> the well-qualified candidate will get sick of trivial tests and form a >> bad impression of your company. > > I thought of adding a short explanation to the top of the simple weed-out > test. There is one already. :) >> If I receive a response to an application for a job, I expect to talk to >> someone who knows what the job is about so "we" can come to a decision >> on whether I'm suited for the job. I don't expect a "battery" of tests >> designed to see whether I was lying through my teeth on my resume! > > Of course you're right -- in an ideal world :) > > Reality may be different. If the market is so that for any such ad there > are only a handful candidates, your expectation is realistic. If OTOH > there > are often hundreds of candidates for an ad, your expectation is > unrealistic, and if I were the hirer and you made your expectation clear > to > me, that could disqualify you. If you don't understand the very real need > of the hirer to weed out 150 candidates that can't answer a simple test > that is way below the actual requirements and that should take you all of > ten minutes to answer, so that he can spend his time more productively > with > the 10 that pass it, you're likely not to understand the many more > real-world compromises one has to make in a business. It's not really about weeding out 150 candidates, in most cases 95% of the candidates are eliminated upfront based on their resume. It's mostly about determining whether a particular candidate out of the remaining 5% actually has the basic qualifications for the job. Unfortunately, the resume is a rather poor indicator. Even though it may not be "lying", some people tend to embellish their resumes. Maybe their definition of "an expert in C" is very different from mine -- and I need to know what it is. The test is not a prerequisite for the interview, in fact it's only given to those candidates who have already passed the resume sort and the phone screen. I found that most candidates don't mind taking the test, I have never had anyone flat out refuse to take one. And those that get somewhat indignant ("whaat?! there's a test?!"), are usually the ones that know the least. The bottom line is, the test helps us make better hiring decisions, and it saves a lot of our and the candidate's time. If someone can't apply Ohm's law to a circuit, we're going to fire this person anyway -- why not weed them out upfront? Vitaliy -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist