Hi Jason: You're probably working with tinsel wire, commonly used in phone handset cords. This stuff is impossible to solder. Need a special crimp terminal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinsel_wire I found this one, but there are others: http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/TE/bin/TE.Connect?C=1&M=BYPN&TCPN=61684-3&RQPN=61684-3 -- Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.precisionclock.com http://www.prc68.com/I/WebCam2.shtml 24/7 Sky-Weather-Astronomy Cam Can someone tell me the proper name for these terminals: http://nixietube.info/terminals1.jpg http://nixietube.info/terminals2.jpg They're an insulation-piercing crimp terminal for stranded wire, that can be directly soldered to a PCB. I haven't been able to find anything like them in various catalogs. Bigger picture: I need to attach the other end of this cable to an inline 2.5mm phone jack, and I'm going to need to do this at least 200 times. Trying to strip & solder the wire isn't working very well - the wire strands are very unruly once stripped, and the joint breaks too easily (the insulation has much greater tensile strength than the wire itself!). I was thinking that crimping on terminals like these, and then soldering them to the phone jack's lugs, would avoid these problems. Jason Harper -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist