Matt Pobursky wrote: > I don't think you can get the Windows IDE/Debugger with anything but PCWH. > You can always use the PCB, PCM or in your case PCH (PIC18) command line > compiler and debug with MPLAB. CCS does have a compiler plugin for MPLAB. Matt, you think C18 is *better* than CCS? Aside from ANSI compliance (which C18 is really not, 100%), what makes it better? From own experience, and a recent thread (which I quoted in the OP), it sounds like C18 is actually pretty dumb. > If I were going down this road then I would probably use Microchip's C18 > or > Hitech's PICC as they are slightly better compilers (ANSI compliant for > instance). For me the real value in the CCS tools is the source level > debugging of PCWH. What if cost was not a big consideration, would you choose PCWH? And which part of PCWH's source level debugging do you value the most? -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist