> > For example if you made a smoke generator by squirting fluid on the > hot exhaust Brake fluid injected into the exhaust system, after the cat converter, will make an unbelievable amount of smoke. I like the delayed action carjacking preventer, but be aware, a frustrated thief is likely to take it out on your car. But having him be a good distance from you is a good thing. My car runs APRS, so it's easy to tell where it is, and there is an "emergency" mode that can be triggered. http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KC6ETE-9 Just remember, anything you install, is likely to go off on YOU by mistake, so don't get too nasty. I have been known to install 30-50 watt sirens under the back seat, pointing forward through a thin scrim that hides them effectively without muffling the sound. Rated at 130dB @ 10' IIRC Definitely discourages you from hanging around inside the car. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist