Hi, I have a very small project on my desk: A tone generator which should produce a simple meldody, has to check a key press and light 2 LEDs. No deal at all BUT cost is a major factor. When checking the prices I found, that the voltage regulator's price is in about the same region as the PIC itself, which lead me to the question: Are there any micro controllers which can be operated directly at an unregulated 12V supply? Thanks for enlighten me and best regards Peter -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist