Well, now I am pretty sure that I am seeing alphas from a smoke detector source ($5.50 - ~1uc americium) , with a once upon a time very good ~.1" sq quad pin photodiode (it's been kicked around for ~ten years on my bench with no lid , dirty, one bond wire wiped off , rats chewi...) I hooked one end of the diode to a 9 volt battery, the other end of the diode to the scope probe, the probe ground clip to other end of battery. I guess the scope is a 1 mohm load. (How in bloody h&ll did they ever get started with "w" for ohms??? ) Scope seems to have ~1.5mv of noise, pulses from diode = ~1.5 to ~3.5 mv ~300 usec decay time, ~1k pulse/s. I don't think you need a $20 op amp for that. Now I have to find a $.10 photodiode in a can - well <$5.00 any way :-) I have not gotten any transistors to detect yet but will keep trying To be 100% sure, I need a graceful means to place and remove an alpha blocker (piece of paper) without disturbing the light leakage and etc and etc -- the epoxy is curing as I type. My early setup was photodiode sticking up in a proto strip with the source (and it's "native" housing) balanced on the diode and then a bit of tape (alpha blocker) or not --- juggle, drop, blast, hold tongue just right, DON'T TOUCH the americium AT ALL with ANYTHING, DON'T touch the photodiode !! Man, I really wish that turkey hadn't stolen my geiger counter the other night - But then I may not have played with the photodiode ?? -- Looking forward, Al Shinn -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist