Vitaliy wrote: >> So is shipping them there. One thing about "sustainability" is to eat >> local food. If oranges and bananas are important to you, maybe you >> consider living somewhere else :) > > Only if people with your mindset force me to. :) I prefer that the > Invisible Hand take care of bringing the oranges and bananas to where I > live. People with my mindset wouldn't force you to move. But they might make you pay the /real/ price for oranges in Minnesota. >> Seriously, only a small fraction of inhabited land is reasonably >> accessible by ship. > > Not true. People tend to live along the coasts. > > http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights2_dmsp_big.jpg Possibly, even though the image you linked to seems to me more of an area image than an outline image. >> And whether "expensive" or not doesn't generally include the real >> cost (which is what sustainability discussions are about). > > Any way you look at it, growing oranges in Minnesota is far more > expensive than shipping them there. Possibly, but once you have to pay all of it, you may want to switch to apples. Gerhard PS Nothing against Minnesotans... That's just an example. Turkish dried figs in Brazil are not much better :) -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist