Rolf wrote: > Hi All. > > I am looking for some preliminary direction for a winter hobby project. > My Father-In-Law has two wells on his property. One has a plentiful > supply of water, but the water is very very 'hard'. The other well has a > lower supply, but the quality is far better. It is easy to switch > between the two wells for the house's water supply. If the good well > runs dry he has to go through a complicated process to re-prime the > well's pump when the water level returns. This is especially complicated > in winter when it can be very cold. His current routine is to check the > well's level at least once a week. For his convenience, and my interest, > I plan to build a device that will measure the depth of water in the > well in such a way that it can be monitored from his PC, and do all the > bells-and-whistles thing including tracking the water level over time, etc. > > I have researched ways to measure the water depth, and currently I am > considering implementing two of three candidate methods, but that is the > subject of a different thread.... my concern right now is for the data > transfer required. > > The well is located about 10 meters from the house, and about 30 meters > from his office with his PC. The house is a log cabin with a concrete > foundation/basement. The well is 10 meters deep and 1 meter in inside > diameter. The well is capped with a concrete lid that has a square > concrete 'manhole cover' for inspection. There are photo's of the well > from the outside here: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/12903637@N08/1524116316/ and the inside of > the well here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/12903637@N08/1524133462/ > > I was hoping to use some form of radio transmitter (prefereably a > transceiver) to transmit the data to a receiver in the house. The reason > for a transceiver is because the computer is only on about 1/4 of the > day, so I would want to store a number of readings while the PC is off, > and then upload them in bulk when the PC comes online (as well as then > uploading updates regularly every 15min or so). I was hoping to use a > cheapish pre-built module. Specifically, I was considering something > like Vitaly's or SparkFun's BlueTooth modules. > > My question for this e-mail is as follows: What can I expect from a > Class 1 BlueTooth module in terms of reliable range where the module is > installed under the 3inch concrete lid outside in temperatures of close > to freezing with about 3 feet of snow piled on top (the inside of the > well never gets much below freezing regardless of the outside temperature)? > > I am (and my father-in-law is) reluctant to have to drill a hole through > the lid, but, we agree that would be preferable to trying to de-ice a > 35kg man-hole cover in 20-below temperatures (Celcius or Fahrenheit) > when you are 60-something. If I need to install an antenna through the > lid it can be done though. > > A further option, though less sexy, would be to use a wired mechanism. > Although this would mean not having to have batteries in the well unit > (there is no power source in the well), it would also require digging a > trench to the house, and opening up the vulnerability to inducing > lightning-strike damage to the PC, etc.... I would need to install a > conduit, have a much more significant 'impact' on the well itself, etc. > I was hoping to just be able to install a box on the inside of the well, > and for that to be enough. > > Any advice, suggestions, etc. welcomed. > > Thanks > > Rolf > A nice submersible pump in the "good" well to cure the priming issues. - been there/done that :) D -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist